You are the World – Exploring Collective Consciousness
In this quote, Krishnamurti delves into interconnectedness, emphasizing the transformative force of love and our care for humanity as a whole:
“(And) this consciousness is the consciousness of the rest of mankind because every human being in the world, everyone from the most primitive, from the most uneducated, to the most highly sophisticated, educated, they go through all this—faith, fear, longing, depression, anxiety, sorrow, pain—every human being in the world goes through it, whether he/she is a Communist, Socialist, Capitalist, or Democrat, or doesn’t belong to any group. So this consciousness is shared by all human beings.
I am afraid you won’t accept that. Quite right. Because you have been trained, educated, religiously, and in other ways, that your consciousness is yours and nobody else’s. And somebody comes along and says, “look at it carefully”… And so you are not individual at all. I know all this is very difficult to accept. You are the rest of mankind, you are humanity. And when you separate yourself then all the problems begin. The separation causes conflict, fear, isolation…
Then one begins to realize the immense responsibility one has. Then one begins to realize the nature of love. Though you may love another, but that love is not restricted to one because you are the entire humanity. You are the world, and the world is you.”
J. Krishnamurti
Public Talk 2, Brockwood Park, 1984
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Yes. we are the World. In the stillness of one’s being it is seen that there is no separate individual apart from thought. In the stillness there is just awareness of what is without any interpretation. We are all essentially the same beneath the stream of thought. In the stillness is never ending peace, whereas the perceived separate self is subject to sorrow, fear, anxiety, pleasure and pain.
Yes – I recognise what you say: we see that. And it’s not through mere absorption of other people’s ideas, although hearing others (like K, especially K), helped us to see that. The problem is we lack energy and forget that and become that which we know we are not. The problem is a lack of energy. I think he gave us the solution to that but easier said then done!
Aaron, if we say it is too hard, then we are done and we are forever separated. But we can do it on a day by day basis, not trying to get far ahead of us, then we may be able to see what K is talking about. We can start by stopping compare ourselves with one another and by stopping looking for others’ mistakes in order to say that we we are right and they are wrong. In doing that, we may see our psychological barrier, which is what separates us as individuals, wither away. When that happens, we may be able to see what our true consciousness is.
Kwok
Totally agree. We are totally connected to the whole collective conciousness of humanity.
“I come to realize that mind is no other than mountains and rivers and the great wide earth, the sun and the moon and stars.”
– Dogen Zenji
Thank you Krishnaji, your love is immeasurable.
Wholeness is the reality of life and the universe. Separation is our human delusion.
Jiddu Krishnamurti is the Infinite Cosmos.
The truth of what he says can be recognised in the fact that we all know the spectrum of emotions: fear, sadness, envy, desire, longing, gratitude, lust, anxiety etc – I’ve never met someone for whom one of these emotions is unfamiliar. Even cross-cultural anthropological research has confirmed this. I saw a study when uncontacted tribes were approached, and befriended, and then researchers showed pictures from the West of faces expressing all these various emotions. They recognised and were able to identify them all, except they confused excitement and fear. And we can make sense of this because in a natural world, where you develop a close relationship with your environement and with your fellows, everything becomes familiar, so why would there be this thing we call ‘excitement’, which indicates the new? If it is unknown, it will be frightening, not exciting. So that seems to affirm what I think we all know – that we are fundamentally similar, indeed identical in the spectrum of emotion. So what is distinct in an ‘individual’? Not the fact of belief, but the particular beliefs – and these particularities are really quite trivial. You believe in Jesus and I believe in the Buddha, but they are culturally specific variations on the universal fact of human belief. So yes, what he says is true and evident, and anthropological research affirms this.
The real problem is that none of us are prepared to watch the automatic thought-machine and the feeling responses do their thing, because we’re committed to other things, like our career or that gratifying habit or possibility – there are allot of destractions with proven rewards, and we’re enticed by reward. We’re not interested in watching ourselves with uncertain rewards (I say ‘we’ – some of us are, but we’re messed up by desire, sexuality,
ambition, and are low on energy, and prone to isolation or addiction or psychosis). He had a perfect upbringing that acquainted him with love and spirituality, and discouraged him from desire, fornication and addiction, those dead end substitutes for love that tend to be accompanied by a certain kind of hihilism. I’m not sure he was speaking for the broken majority. But it’s great to read and listen to him and know that his possibility exists. The one real universal problem is the energy to remain alert to the thought-machine and emotional reactions that do take place automatically and feign to be the self – I see that – but the lack of energy makes us fall asleep and forget, and become that machine and forget that I am not. I’m sure some people know what I’m talking about. I know for a fact that I am nothing yet I’ll forget in a second and become what I know is automation, reaction, what I am not. It’s very confusing. There is no self – it’s just thought. When thought is quite who are you? That’s who ‘you’ are! (nothing). Many people see that today. We just need the energy to remain nothing.
We are the world as we are a repository of the cosmos energy. Our biological and physical characteristics distinguish us from each other and make us unique but our essence remains the same: tinny peaces of energy that are manifestations of the divine, whether we are humans or not…
In so many ways I am the world. Awareness sees this thing called I in the world, but I is outside awareness as is the world, so really I is part of the world, so I is the world, so really, there is only the world. Awareness sees all that and they are all true. Really for awareness there is nothing but the world, and ‘I’ is a part of it, as is rain or the sun. Yet also, in another sense, the world is not, because only awareness IS: everything else is just schimera. It’s transient, accidental – it comes and goes, therefore in not the real, fundamental – is accidental, immaterial. But awareness is always there, is fundamental: if it is not nothing is. So in away, awareness alone is. It is IS. So we have gone through fragmentary language and it seems that we have stated three irreconcilable truths, but that’s a figment of language. It is just one truth. I am the world – there is only the world – only awareness is: there is no ‘world’. All these are true. They are moments in the continuum the that ‘we’ are, understanding that by ‘we’ we mean ‘IS’. It can’t be put in language. It just IS (us).
The only way forward is to read THE BOOK OF LIFE, such a manuscript is a about our awareness, ,our attention and observation to self and others, this way of being alive is important and imperative, as it helps us catch our illusory world locked in our brains. Once we see this as a fact, we will have the insight , and the brain will take the ACTION…… and the past is done fore …only the moment remains………..
The words are simple. ..but we remain the same…where is the “flaw”? …I think David Bohm “explain” in a different way…better than K…🙏❤️🙏
Ji
You are so right so right it takes one s life landscape to reach your words
Thank you for those making you alive making all your words available we are so lost in persona
Thank you
Consciousness is the same in all beings, degree varies, each one is over shadowed by self perception. The substratum is same, ever present, never decays, and is omnipresent.
I do not agree with that statement , it is so overblown. For Example Faith, I know many people that have no faith in religion what so ever, Atheist.
Therefore how can one say that “Every human being in the world goes through it ….” That is just one example. Also, our thoughts, feelings and our
behavior is different. We do not all have the same thoughts nor do we all behave in the same way, Again this is obvious and based on empirical
evidence. If you are looking for commonality in human beings, it would be the consciousness or the light that illuminates the content of consciousness
not the content of consciousness per se. This is clearly posited in Advaita Vedanta and overlooked by Krishnamurti. I do not know why he stated such statement but it is an inaccurate representation of humanity. Once again there is no empirical evidence that humans behave the same under the same circumstances. It is rhetorical and absurd and has no bases in reality.. Maybe, just maybe he was trying to outwit Advaita Vedanta which clearly
states that Consciousness, the illuminator that illumines the content of consciousness is the same in all beings.
LIFE UNBRIDLED – POSSIBILITY DISCOVERED
Seeing beyond our frozen fears and imagined needs lies another realm,
a realm unrivalled.
Seeing beyond our beliefs, opinions and judgements,
of being right and making others wrong, is another state –
a state of wisdom and common sense.
Seeing beyond anger, violence, murder and mayhem –
our inner peace and equanimity reside.
Seeing beyond racism, nationalism, communism, capitalism – freed of all isms –
we live unhindered by our conditioned minds and hardened hearts.
Seeing beyond acceptance and tolerance is another world –
a world of kindness and understanding.
Seeing beyond theology, philosophy, science and certainty –
a life of openness exists.
Seeing beyond our need for more, better, different –
we discover satisfaction with what we have.
Seeing beyond our alcoholism, drug addiction, gluttony – all forms of self-harm –
we see what is and wake up.
And yes:
Seeing beyond our crimes, arrests, trials and incarcerations –
a pure heart is beating.
Seeing beyond all conflicts, wars, dominance, and control,
or simply a couple lost in their day-to-day disagreements –
our innate desire for peace remains.
And finally:
Seeing beyond this story, your story, their story – every story ever written or told –
our life is unbridled.
And there, before our lifelong accumulation,
an all-embracing warmth melts the edges of division,
dissolving the illusion of you and me, of them and us.
Our true self revealed – humanity’s innocence understood – the unknown embraced.
This internal, eternal universe is home – is love.
Our mind’s at peace, a new reality seen, a life fulfilled.
Our life of decency creating a world of Possibility.
Let’s not go too far without seeing something very near and accurately. So let’s not first assume that all is oneness and whole to begin with. Watch the very moment without thinking along.
If you are aware of your actions your speech your thoughts and thinking and inclination and so forth and if you are acutely aware and attentive to all that, you will probably question from whence you act what is the cause before it.
Obviously there is reaction to every action or I should say every reactions is a cause from previous reactions. So I question if there is an action that is not a cause of previous causes. Including ones cunning thoughts and analysis.
What you are are merely a bundle of memories and conditions and from these you react upon. It may look complex and far reaching but indeed you are conditioned in almost every way in and out and so is the one next and far away from you.
We thus share the same consciousness. It is not mine nor it is yours. Consciousness is what you are aware of which maybe limited. If there is any limitations It only means you cling and attached to certainty continuity and conditions. Thus the makeup of your consciousness.
We are in this soup of consciousness together because the world is really but a mere extension of ones reaction and condition and everyone in this world shares this same consciousness. This attributes.
Anyone who truly realize this has a chance to perhaps step out of this. But not the ones who merely intellectually debate or thinking away about the other side.
It takes quite a quality in you to be direct earnest and awareness to be able to see this. Not a mind that is always thinking and looking for an answer. Watch!
Krishnamurti is love. These messages: You are all of humanity… and we realize an immense responsibility once we see that…. Thank you, K.
To investigate the reality of the fabric and our conditioning.we need to know ourselves, read the book which is inside of us, one should question everything, one should be rebel in a real sense. One should not accept the things as they are . And if you do accept anything because of any reason, you should be knowing the reality. For example before my coming in contact with Krishna ji, many many years ago I used to worship (Idol worship ) occasionally but I was aware of the fact that I worship because I am scared that me and my children should always be safe and secured as I have less resources. I used to tell that to the other people also. I knew the very fact very well that I not worshiping with faith and it is out of fear. When you know yourself honestly as you are not as you wish to be, you will be able to understand deeply and connect yourself with the world when it happens then we might be able to explore the new understanding of time and its relation to our thinking process. You will be able to find the truth when you are totally free from anything and everything. To be so we need to know ourselves, our inner self.we must read the book which is inside of us, under skin.That is the first step to the ladder and with it half the battle is won.Believe me it is very very easy to do which seems so tough.
To investigate the reality of the fabric and our conditioning.we need to know ourselves, read the book which is inside of us, one should question everything, one should be rebel in a real sense. One should not accept the things as they are . And if you do accept anything because of any reason, you should be knowing the reality. For example before my coming in contact with Krishna ji, many many years ago I used to worship (Idol worship ) occasionally but I was aware of the fact that I worship because I am scared that me and my children should always be safe and secured as I have less resources. I used to tell that to the other people also. I knew the very fact very well that I not worshiping with faith and it is out of fear. When you know yourself honestly as you are not as you wish to be, you will be able to understand deeply and connect yourself with the world when it happens then we might be able to explore the new understanding of time and its relation to our thinking process.
Als je luistert naar wat ‘K’ te zeggen heeft, is dat niet de bede van een individu, maar de stem van de hele mensheid die vraagt om wakker te worden !
K is great. He says certain things thinking that we will understand exactly the way he think it. But usually it is misunderstood and leads to eternal confusion and even conflict with k’s own words. I have read K for almost 25 years and I know the juice of it is not sustainable because of the huge complexity of the unconscious mind. My idea of K is to doubt what K says. The belief and doubt goes Ina wave form rising and falling, but that’s exactly where I want to be. The more I question K, the more clearer it becomes that even the other K couldn’t follow what the “world teacher” would say. It’s not practically possible. You listen to Mary Zimbalist in her memoirs, you will know how much desire he has to take a flight to London Huntsman to order tailor made dress. For him and Aline. It’s desire. And he strongly accepts his fate if he has no way of getting that dress. Not to be in conflict. He tried very hard to patch up with Rajagopal and the moment he realised that he was the most evil man he had ever met, he went his own way. He separated himself from the rest of Mankind by struggling to deal with the Rajagopals. Now we are in the place of the ordinary K and not the world teacher K. So, we have to find our own path, getting few hints from K. The best of which, my personal favourite is – “Be a light to yourself”!
I was just wondering !!! I wonder if you could be part of the Krishnamurti Foundation and be critical of some of his statements. Off Course
he made many statement that I agree with but others I find inaccurate and do not represent my Psychological Inquiry. ??? I guess that would
differentiate “Free Inquiry” from a “Cult” ?? Maybe then we can have a free inquiry on Consciousness -?? Is Consciousness that which illumines
the content of consciousness ?? OR Is consciousness the same as the content ?? I know where I stand On this, YOU must also take a stand or rather
investigate this fundamental matter..
感谢
我没什么想说的。
我唯一知道的事情就是：我一无所知。
我什么也不是。
我只是一个虚空的意识，没有现实可言的幻觉我识。
对此，能说什么呢？
没有世界，没有人类，没有宇宙。
其他一切都是谎言，故事，概念。
物质的世界只是看起来的样子，实无现实可言。
它什么都不是。
我不关心人类。
不管人们作着怎样的幻梦，悲伤或恐惧或幸福…
这只不过是一场该死的幻梦而已！
谁在乎这一切？
你。
这是你的幻梦，你的梦幻泡影，没有其他人在这里。
找出你真正是“谁”“是什么”。
一切都不是问题。
只有一个真正的问题：“who are you？”