On Death & Love
This short film “On Death and Love” was created by Maël G. Lagadec – a friend of The Immeasurable. It’s based on an excerpt of a talk given by J. Krishnamurti in Paris, 1961.
“Probably most of you have not thought about this problem at all: to die each day… That means not to carry over from yesterday all your ambitions, grievances, your memories of fulfillment, your grudges, your hatred. You understand? To die every day.
Most of us wither away, but that is not dying. To die is to know what love is. Love has no continuity, no tomorrow. The picture of a person on the wall, the image, in your mind – that is not love, it is merely memory. Love means, surely, to die to everything that you have known. As love is the unknown, so death is the unknown. So you cannot love with the known. And to enter the unknown, which is death, one must die every day to everything. Then only is the mind fresh, young and innocent; and in that there is no death…
And it can be done, only it demands a great deal of self-inquiry, and awareness of every thought, every gesture, every word, so that there is no accumulation. Surely, that one can do. Then you will know what it is to die every day; and then perhaps we shall also know what it is to love every day, and not merely know love as memory. We don’t know what it is to live, because we are afraid, and we don’t know what it is to die.
We don’t know what it is to love, but we do know what it is to be attached, which we call love: my family, my husband, my child… to die to that attachment, to actually die to it. Without any argument, without any choice. And perhaps you will know what it is to love. All that we know now is the smoke, the smoke of jealousy, envy, ambition, greed, and the pain of all that. We do not know the flame behind the smoke. To find that out one must put away the smoke, completely, totally. Then we shall find that living and dying are the same thing, not theoretically, but actually.”
– J. Krishnamurti
Excerpt from 7th Public Talk in Paris, 1961
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Directed by Maël G. Lagadec (FB: MaelGLagadec / Instagram: mael.g.lagadec)
With Carolina Morais Fonseca (FB: DanzDuende / Instagram: carolinaskydancer) Pierre-Noel Akosse, Mélissa Pirson
Music by bààn (FB: bààn / Instagram: themusicofbaan)
Sound: Christine Verschorren
Production Babelfish (FB: Babelfishasb)
I really enjoyed this presentation. The use of multimedia can speak to us at different levels simultaneously. Wonderful!
She was one with source. Engulfed in what it means to be alive. Complete awareness. Loved the video , very peaceful. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Truth is a pathless land
If the me dies, there is no one that can know what love is, this just sounds suicidal.
as to a sorta suicide. It does seem like a psychological suicide is being called for or is that our way of avoiding to see that which we are is already dead and only lives by virtue of an artifactual effect of the biomechanics of thought.
Krishnamurti, like all of us, had to rely largely on words to convey his insights to other people. Wrapping those words in someone else’s impressionistic garb of pictures and music, as films like this attempt to do, does a disservice to them and detracts from their value. It can be a challenge to sit quietly, free of expectation, with Krishnamurti’s verbalized thoughts, but the challenge is far more promising without the distraction of tendentious theatrical window-dressing.
Completament d’acord amb Ben Kelley. Per què limitar el missatge de K. d’aquesta manera?
Maël G. Lagadec : well done! Incredible piece of art and a true understanding of JK.
Totalment d’acord amb Ben Kelley. La Fundació no pot posar-se del costat de coses així. Tot.hom pot fer art de la manera que cregui convenient, pero aixó no es pot confondre amb la manera de fer de la Fundació. Les paraules de “K” son prou clares, no cal afegiri res més.
Beautiful short. I loved that the director used Kirishnamurti´s voice over, though I think (specially reading some comments), that the way in which these concepts are visually exemplified could have been clearer. Nevertheless, great direction, mood, pacing, photography, editing and casting. I´ve always loved the portrayal of female body with cloths in the wind. Great message and powerful words that are as relevant to these times as when they where originally thought by J.K.
Beautiful short. I loved that the director used Kirishnamurti´s voice over, though I think (specially reading some comments), that the way in which these concepts are visually exemplified could have been clearer. Nevertheless, great direction, mood, pacing, photography, editing and casting. I´ve always loved the portrayal of female body with cloths in the wind. Great message and powerful words that are as relevant to these times as when they where originally thought by J.K.
Creates a sense of drama around Krishnamurti’s words that puts them into relief. This is 2018 and there are new technologies, and a new generation. This is a creative way of making the teachings one’s own, and that is the only use any teachings have. If you don’t make them your own, then they are useless for you. I think this video may inspire people who otherwise would not have read K to do so. You can listen to K’s words on your own if you don’t like this presentation.