Can Attachment End?
“So what does death mean? The ending of things we have remembered, which we have now, and with the hope of something in the future. A great confusion, turmoil, sorrow. This is our life. And death comes, says, it will end. All this will end. So is it possible —please listen if you are interested—is it possible, take for example one thing, attachment. You are attached to a person, to an idea, to a conclusion, to a belief, to some imaginative romantic pictures, you are attached to it. And death says, it’s over, you can’t be attached anymore, it is finished.
So while you are living can attachment end? You follow what I am saying? You understand? Which is death. I am attached now to my experience, to my knowledge, to my wife, husband, children, to the various conclusions I have, I am attached to it. And in that attachment there is fear, jealousy, anxiety, all that happens. And when death comes there is a break, there is an ending. So can I, knowing this, being aware of the whole nature of attachment, can there be freedom from attachment, now, living? So if there is an end I am living with life and death together. You understand? Are we following each other a little bit? There is no separation from living and dying. There is great beauty in that. There is great truth in it. Not some romantic nonsense. So the brain becomes free. And then it has infinite capacity, infinite energy.”
J. Krishnamurti
Talk 2, New York, 1983
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One of the best things I am learning and absorbing on this wonderful spiritual path (and from enlightened beings like JK and others) is that LOVING ALL – inclusively and completely, but without ATTACHMENT, is the most BLISSFUL form of FREEDOM I could ever have imagined. Yes, it is still hard for me to stay focused on this feeling and not get distracted by worldly trappings, but every day, it gets easier and easier to balance between “holding on”
to the “Truth” and letting go the “Unreal”. This FREEDOM also comes with quite a wonderful feeling of FEARLESSNESS. I can’t wait to see how this journey will take me INWARDS up to my last breath !
There is no unconditional love as long as the self exists, as long as you perceive yourself as an individual who choosese to love others. When we see ourselves intensely, in awareness without thoughts, a lot, there is a chance for the self to dissolve. Then, and only then, can unconditional love occur, in our absence, and it happens spontaneously through us without any thought, will or desire. Awareness is there watching it happen, but there is no individual who is aware of it. If you become peaceful enough you may be aware of this. “God begins where I end.” – Meister Eckhart
Be detached while living. This is death of the Maya Shakti of the creator. One becomes free while still alive and active.
Sudhir Kalidas
“We” are never the same. We are change. A boy becomes an adult. We believe it is the “same” person. We add the ingredient of time. In fact, there is a different individual. Memories and labels such as “name” and “SS#” are all what remains the same. Therefore, it is inevitable to change unless we are holding on to ideas and beliefs, memories and… time. Living and dying is a duality which integrate when the “individual” made up of mind constructs is not; that is he “learns” to “clean up” his “container,” to make it “empty” so newness can arrive. It is not something that can be done. It is to be realized through awareness. Who “I am” now, will not meet physical death unless it happens right now. A different individual will do so. However, by building a persona through ideals, concepts, beliefs and emotional traumas and tracing its continuity through linear “time,” I am setting up the illusion of mental continuity when in fact, everything is change: Death of the old to become something new.
It is true. Have discovered it myself, have been in nothingness. I guess it is called nothingness because literally there is no a thing, no ‘me’ no its movements. There is nothing one can do because that ‘one’ has gone, it is very lost state and also there is dreadful fear. It is not the fear we know, it is much stronger and deeper. The nothingness was there as fear have been faced. The key is to face “what is” in the very flowering.
When you live with life and death at same time, JK says there is infinite energy and freedom.
You are unlimited and you can love all human beings etc etc.
when you are in such a state, how do you look at the other human being who is carrying all the burdens of love and life?
Can you love him/her who is so foolish?
Are you going to try to change him? That is where all the problems arise in the world.
It is a feeling of life and death, thinking about death at every moment of lively life and to kill those precious moments?
One can never get rid of human feelings of love and attachment. If he does, it may be temporary or he might have some psychiatric problems.
If you dont feel love or loved, it is not difficult from that point to reach the state of life of living with life and death.
But that is not a journey, any average human being may be capable of doing.
if you have experienced all the goodies of life, enjoying life, earn and help others to earn, this is how the world runs.
Something has to motivate the human beings so they move around live around and the whole world from east to west keeps moving.
I hope all the world leaders develop this idea of non-attachment and then how would that work?
Life and death cannot be opposites, they are together, i can see it various moments of my life. My attachment to my image, Wealth, Land and not letting go of the past hurts is the cause to my depression. I am heavily attached to various things and Being attached means not allowing death, and death is inevitable. i am 49, if i take good care of my body, it may live for many years but my body has to die one day. many cells in my body are dying and new cells are taking birth, every moment and due to this life and death my body exist in order. I feel
I am grateful K to make see its truth.
My Journey of Enquiry accelerated when i got in touch with his Teachings.
For me, K is the ultimate ‘messenger’ so I have studied him for 20 years and I am eager to learn more. No one else says do not follow me. It’s up to us to do the necessary work. It’s up to us as individuals to truly live…and die, yes. His video “What is Meditation” is an excellent summary of his work, I say. It inspires me (to tears of joy) just hearing it. We know what we all must do to get things right. Sooner we do the work, sooner we will live true.
Hi Richard,
‘What is Meditation’ is a great book. ‘Exploration into insight’ is even deeper, much deeper, isn’t it?
very well said
Please change your video platform. I will not watch anything on YouTube, as it is owned by Google. Odysee is one of several good alternatives.
So I sit on the side of a riverbank watching the steam of my thoughts and life as the river.
I flow with it , knowing that life and change is always happening.
let go of it all, its all an illusion. I am not me, for a while i was actual fooled by the ghost im my machine.
I think someone once said, be in the world, but not of the world. NOT PART OF ANYTHING.
nothingness comes only what your house is clean, and the window is open.
something just may blow in and you will feel kissed by the fairy lights.
For much understanding comes in solitude. Ask a MONK ! , he experiences all by doing nothing.
Regarding ‘the attachment’.
When one is able to see the truth of outward attachments and go deeper, it comes to the most powerful one, which is ‘myself’.
What is it? It is a vast structure of memories. ‘The centre’ was generated with the ONLY purpose: security physical snd psychological. The root of ‘myself’ is thought. The origin of thought is fear. Fear is the very movement away from the fact. Therefore the ‘me’ is fear attempting to find security. I wonder how many of us are REALLY willing to go that deep into it that ‘myself’ desapear…. that is death. Being in nothingness may become permanent with no returning back and there is nothing one can do, because ‘you’ is gone. So I wonder how many of us ACTUALLY – not verbally- are wiling to dye, to loose ‘the me’?
Regarding ‘the attachment’.
When one is able to see the truth of outward attachments and go deeper, it comes to the most powerful one, which is ‘myself’.
What is it? It is a vast structure of memories. ‘The centre’ was generated with the ONLY purpose: security physical and psychological. The root of ‘myself’ is thought. The origin of thought is fear. Fear is the very movement away from the fact. Therefore the ‘me’ is fear (of being nothing) attempting to find security. I wonder how many of us are REALLY willing to go that deep into it that ‘myself’ desapear…. that is death. ‘Myself’ is always moving away through thought /fear from the fact of being nothing. This is his ONLY REAL function.
Being in nothingness may become permanent with no returning back and there is nothing one can do, because ‘you’ is gone. Once ‘the centre’ is not the dreadful fear is there, I guess it is fear of death. So I wonder how many of us ACTUALLY – not verbally- are wiling to dye, to loose ‘the me’?
As I read the words of dearest K- about living with life and death together- I sink into the beauty of simply being. The tension leaves my body and I am present to the sounds and sensations . Life feels so simple. There are no worries here. There is what presents. There is spaciousness and there is change. There is constancy. What a lovely way to start my Sunday.
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You can only realize all these when you are totally and truly aware of your self nature.
Otherwise the illusive self that which continuously reacts, that you are conditionally and habitually attached to, give rise to endless false views.
So can one do away with analysis and go beyond thinking and thoughts, and see this very moment, this truth.. right now?
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只有出生的才会死亡。没有真正的死亡。但对于“人”而言，死亡意味着身体的逝去。但自我不是身体。我在的存在感的幻觉终结就等同于“死亡”。除此之外，一切都源于自然。身体的死亡是一种需要。但令人悲伤的并不是死亡本身。而是我们对消逝之物的依恋。不管是人还是物体或是一个信念。这些事物定义了一个个人过去和轮廓，创造了一个人存在的幻相。这幻相无比伦比。令人迷醉。人生是一场精彩绝伦的盛宴，是挂在幻灯片上的肥皂剧。而生与死的出现让生命看起来有了意义。所有的悲伤与欢乐，得到与失去都是这场大戏的游戏体验。如果没有出生与死亡。人生就失去了其存在的意义。正是出生与死亡让我们的生命拥有了短暂存在的美丽。人们应该像欢呼出生一样迎接死亡。死亡应该是这世上最美好的事情。因为死亡是你的另一面。你本来的模样。